Former Army intelligence analysist and notorious data leaker Chelsea Manning vented her frustrations to the Daily Beast in an interview Monday that touched on Glenn Greenwald, the Canadian musician Grimes and the war in Ukraine, as well as Manning’s assertion that the U.S. is headed for civil war.
Greenwald and Manning evidently used to be good friends, that is until Greenwald started aligning himself with conservative figures like Tucker Carlson, which Manning could not tolerate even though Greenwald was one of her defenders in the data leak scandal that landed the disgraced soldier in prison.
She also took issue with Elon Musk, saying he is transphobic because of a tweet in which he made fun of Netflix after it was reported that Grimes and Chelsea were in a relationship — Manning would neither confirm nor deny rumors that she is dating Grimes, who is Musk’s ex and mother of two of his children.
Musk tweeted in March, “Netflix waiting for the war to end to make a movie about a black Ukraine guy falls in love with a transgender soldier.”
— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) March 14, 2022
“The one thing I will say is he around that time definitely seemed transphobic, and rumor or speculation aside, that’s off-limits. I’m going to respond to it. Any transphobia in a transphobic environment is not OK,” Manning said in reference to Musk.
As for Greenwald, Manning told the Beast, “I saw that trending a certain way and I decided to go in a very different direction.”
“I can’t tell you how hard that was,” she said, after denouncing him on Twitter. Manning tweeted in September of last year, “glenn greenwald, i don’t have $10,000 right now but if i get it i want to send it back to you from a donation you once did. i can’t deal with this anymore. im terrified of you and everything you do. you’re greedy, unprincipled, and im embarrassed for ever considering you a friend”
glenn greenwald, i don’t have $10,000 right now but if i get it i want to send it back to you from a donation you once did. i can’t deal with this anymore. im terrified of you and everything you do. you’re greedy, unprincipled, and im embarrassed for ever considering you a friend
— Chelsea E. Manning (@xychelsea) September 2, 2021
“One of the problems I’ve been having is that one of the things he does is he feeds off the engagement and the fighting. I wanted to go on record: I don’t want a beef with Glenn. I don’t want to feed his fire. I don’t want to engage with that. I said what I said, and I meant what I said. I have many reasons,” Manning told the outlet.
“I think that he is a dangerous person. The people he’s aligned himself with are very dangerous,” Manning continued, adding, “A lot of people have been trending this way—it’s not just him—but he was the hardest. He was the hardest.”
It would also seem that Greenwald tweeting about the efficacy of Ivermectin as a treatment for COVID didn’t sit well with Manning either.
“I was just like, it’s time. I had agonized over it for years and it came from a very personal place, and I emotionally struggled to come forward with this.”
“It truly was a very deep, personal moment for me,” she said.
Manning also told the outlet she believes the U.S. is on the brink of civil war, or at least “a depression.”
“I do see the warning signs—insurgencies, conflicts. I see red flags all over the U.S. right now. I’m like, OK, y’all! It can happen here!” Manning said.
‘Every indicator is that, unless something drastically changes—which it isn’t—we’re gonna have a very dark era here in the U.S., whether that’s a civil conflict or something on the scale of a depression,” she warned.
“We’re living in a very gilded age. I’m very alarmed by the state of things in the U.S.—and the state of things in the world in general—but the U.S. has very little experience, and very little self-awareness of the precariousness of the situation.”
And of course, Manning had to echo the tiresome claims from the left-wing that democracy is in peril as a result of the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, which is the only riot over the last two-plus years they choose to remember.
“[People are] literally trying to pretend away an attempted coup,” she said.
And speaking of war, Manning was somehow able to get into Ukraine as a volunteer in March.
“I was at the border and did some volunteer work out there in March, so pretty early on. There were just so many refugees and there weren’t enough volunteers. One of the biggest problems I saw on the ground in the initial phase was there was a lack of translators, so there were a lot of hand-movements and using Google Translate on the phone.”
“The volunteers would fit in with that immediate need of helping refugees pouring in across the border unexpectedly, in very quick fashion.”
“I rotated out of there pretty fast, because the intensity of it was you were basically working for five days without sleep. It was non-stop,” she recalled.
Chelsea Manning, a biological male who was previously known as Bradley Manning, was sentenced in 2013 to 35 years in prison for the release of some 491,000 files to Wikileaks and was charged with 22 various counts of espionage-related crimes including “aiding the enemy” which is a capital offense punishable by death, but prosecutors chose not to pursue that level of punishment.
In January of 2017, Manning’s sentence was commuted by outgoing President Barack Obama.
Former President Trump tweeted at the time that Manning was an “ungrateful traitor” and should “never have been released.”
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Frank (Chip) Webster is a musician and composer, former teacher of percussion and U.S. Army Infantry veteran. He holds a degree in English from Arizona State University.
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