‘QAnon Shaman’ tells CBS he stopped vandalism, sang a song in ‘sacred’ Capitol and feels ‘wounded’ by Trump

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Unable to stop obsessing over the Jan. 6th riot at the U.S. Capitol two months ago, this week Laurie Segall of CBS’s “60 Minutes+” interviewed the “QAnon Shaman” who’d been seen stomping around the halls of Congress dressed like a barbarian.

Speaking with Segall virtually from the jail where he’s currently incarnated as he awaits trial, suspect Jacob Chansely disputed the narrative that his participation in the riot amounted to actions against the nation. He also lamented President Donald Trump’s decision to not humor his request for a pardon.

A clip from the full interview shared on “CBS This Morning” Thursday showed a discussion between Segall and Chansely beginning with the CBS reporter accusing his actions on the 6th of having been “an attack on this country.”

This prompted Chansely to reply, “No, they were not, ma’am. My actions were not an attack on this country. That is incorrect. That is inaccurate, entirely.”

Asked by Segall to tell her how he’d describe his actions, he then listed off what exactly he’d done inside the Capitol.

“Well, I sang a song. And that’s a part of shamanism. It’s about– creating positive vibrations in a sacred chamber. I also stopped people from stealing and vandalizing that sacred space, the Senate. Okay?” he said.

“I actually stopped somebody from stealing muffins out of the– out of the break room. And I also said a prayer in that sacred chamber. Because it was my intention to bring divinity, and to bring God back into the Senate.”

Segall countered by pointing out that he wasn’t allowed to be in the Senate, to which he responded by conceding her point.

“And that is– and that is the one very serious regret that I have, was believing that when we were waved in by police officers, that it was acceptable,” he said.

When then asked whether he still views himself as a patriot, he answered in the affirmative.

“I consider myself a lover of my country. I consider myself a believer in the Constitution. I consider myself a believer in truth and our founding principles. I consider myself a believer in God.”

Watch the full clip below:

The second half of the clip showed Segall questioning Chansely about Trump.

“What was it about Donald Trump that you felt so fiercely loyal to that you hung on every word and you interpreted his words in certain ways?” she asked.

I developed a lot of sympathy for Donald Trump because it seemed like the media was picking on him and seemed like the establishment was going after him unnecessarily or unfairly, and I had been a victim of that all of my life, whether it be in school or at home. So in many ways I identify with a lot of the negative things that he was going through,” Chansley replied.

I honestly believed and still believe that he cares about the Constitution, that he cares about the American people, and that’s also why and you know it wounded me so deeply and why it disappointed me so greatly that I and others did not get a pardon.”

Segall then asked him whether he regretted his loyalty to Trump.

“I regret entering that building. I regret entering that building with every fiber of my being,” he replied.

“But you don’t regret the loyalty to Donald Trump,” Segall pressed.

“No,” Chansley said.

In that regard, he’s like the vast majority of Republican voters.

Of course, the media are still unable to understand why so many Americans voted for Trump in 2016 and then in 2020, despite multiple attempts by numerous commentators — quite a few of them former Democrats — to explain this otherwise easily understandable phenomenon to them.

Commentators have also been unable to get it through the media’s heads that the participants of the Jan. 6th riot are in no way representative of all Trump supporters.

According to CBS, only 300 people “have been charged with crimes in connection with the assault on the Capitol.”

Three hundred is a long way off from the 74 million who voted for Trump.

Among those charged in connection with the riot is Chansley.

“A federal grand jury indicted Chansley on January 11. The indictment charges two felonies and four misdemeanors, including civil disorder (interfering with a law officer) and violent entry and disorderly conduct in a Capitol building,” according to CBS.

“An affidavit from Chansley’s arrest says investigators were able to identify him as one of the men on the Senate floor by his tattoos and unique attire, matching them with his Facebook account. The affidavit also says Chansley voluntarily called the FBI the day after the insurrection, admitting he was the man seen wearing a headdress and face paint while sitting in Vice President Mike Pence’s chair in the Senate.”

This week Segall also spoke with Chansley’s mother, Martha. Listen below as she defends her son’s actions by claiming “he was escorted into the Senate.”


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