Tucker puts bishop’s feet to the fire for claiming white people need to support reparations to heal their souls

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Screen capture … Tucker Carlson and Bishop Eugene Taylor Sutton … Credit: Fox News

You and your soul, if you are a white person, need reparations more than black people do, according to Episcopalian Bishop Eugene Taylor Sutton, who testified before Congress on Wednesday during the crazy reparations hearings orchestrated by Democrats.

“When I’m talking about reparations, I’m talking about those left behind,” Sutton told those in the congressional hearing. “But I’m actually talking to my white brothers and sisters. You need this more than we do. You need this for your soul. You need this to be able to look black people in the eye and say I acknowledge the mistake, and I want to be part of the solution to repair that damage.”

The hearing was conducted by the House Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, led by such leftist luminaries as Rep. Steve Cohen and Rep. Eric Swalwell. The topic of discussion was a bill written by Dem. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee intended to create a commission to study and recommend proposals for paying reparations for the injustices of slavery in America all those many years ago.

Tucker Carlson had Sutton on his program Wednesday for an interesting discussion on the issue.

In his monologue, Carlson presented a simple analogy: “Let’s say somebody committed some sort of horrible crime against you, shot your dog, burned your house down, kidnapped one of your children. Let’s say the person who did it escaped and then died before being punished. You would be frustrated of course. But how would you feel if the police arrested someone else, an innocent person for the crime? Someone who happened to look like the criminal and sent that person to prison? Would you be happy with that, would you consider it justice? If so, you probably agree with congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee from Texas that we need reparations for slavery.”

Later speaking to his guest, Carlson said, “What you said about white people needing — all white people needing to support reparations struck me as the antithesis of the Christian understanding of guilt, which is, God judges each person based on his or her choices, not on the choices made by his ancestors.”

“Absolutely, but that quote, I definitely was not referring to the eternal significance of people’s souls for eternity, the Bishop responded. “That was not my whole statement. I talked about the souls of black folk and the souls of white folk, which is to say all of us have a stake in this.

“In my diocese, the diocese of Maryland, half is Republican, half Democrat, we are liberal, we are conservative, rural, city, suburban, and here’s what we did last month,” Sutton continued.”We all voted to affirm the issue of reparations, affirm my statement on reparations and we committed ourselves to doing this and we did it by coming together once it was properly understood that it’s not a check given to all black persons.”

“As a historical matter,” Carlson pointed out, “the country has for 150 years, as you put it well, been trying to figure out how to fix this mess that we inherited. That’s right, it is a mess, we did inherit it, and we are trying, but I guess what I’m interested in because you are a clergyman is this question of guilt. How can people feel guilty for something they didn’t do? How can people who didn’t commit a crime be culpable for it?”

“I never use the word guilt, I don’t think it’s the issue,” said the Bishop. “The issue is responsibility. “What do we do about this mess? What do we do about the wealth gap? We are not pointing fingers at anyone. In fact, in this journey towards reparation, which just means to repair, it’s a journey by love and forgiveness in trying to get all of us on board there. This is what we did in Maryland, what we can do in Maryland, I think we can do in this nation.”

“In your statement to date you said what people have to support this so they can look black people in the eye,” Carlson argued. “I don’t support this and I have no problem looking African-Americans in the eye because I haven’t supported slavery or Jim Crow and I treat each person as an individual, so I don’t bear any guilt for this. I don’t. But you seem to think I do, why?”

“I’m not saying you should feel guilty, you should feel a responsibility as I do, as all of us do,” said Sutton. “250 years of slavery and the next 150 years and we are still involved in this and it was only about 40 or 50 years ago that we witnessed the end of the Jim Crow laws. That came after 100 years of struggle after that. Do you really believe that just based on what the great accomplishments we’ve been able to make in this nation in the last 30 years, that that adequately redresses the debt that we have all inherited? Uncompensated labor.”

“Forty-one percent of African-Americans in this country receive some sort of aid from the government,” Carlson said. “The highest of any ethnic group. You are saying we need to put more into programs targeted toward African-Americans. I would argue what we have now clearly isn’t working, I think you would agree. What do you have in mind that we haven’t tried?

“I would agree it’s not working well. You know what else isn’t working well? Underfunded school systems. I gave an example this morning — African-American elderly women languishing in nursing homes who have inherited no wealth, have no resources. Can’t we help them? Mass incarceration of many of our black citizens, it’s a national nightmare. When we are talking about reparations, we are talking about a commitment to address those wrongs. We are not talking about a check from white persons to black persons. What is this generation going to do together?

“I would like to see some of the $51 million in your diocese go toward that,” said Carlson.

Video by Fox News 


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